However, a number of factors go into deciding the level of effort you put when adding elevation gain into cycling. A good elevation gain that describes an acceptable route has a climbing of feet per mile or feet every 10 miles. This is an ideal ratio that makes sure the elevation gain is in line with other parameters.
This does not mean you have to climb to reach the number, but it means that the route gains the elevation cumulatively versus losing it. This ratio is a good place to start if you are preparing for a big mountain ride event. It can also be a good starting place if you are looking to improve against yourself and become a better climber.
When you become comfortable with longer rides with this elevation gain, you get the confidence you need for getting ready to tackle the mountains. Though climbing is not what every cyclist is interested in, it is something most would face at some point. Metrics like elevation gain and gradient helps you track your fitness specific to climbing and get the information you need to analyze your performance.
September 18, Share this Over the past 2 decades a number of people have claimed 1 day ascents from various base defined locations first starting from the South Col shared with Lhotse and other parts even lower down the massif. Rowell and Gilette also claimed a 1 day Denali ascent starting from 10K ft. Make a diagram, a trail profile.
Natural language is poorly vague. Now if that's not what you words convey, you should mod the profile. That figure would be ft. But the Italians use the SI metric. Gene I hate to think I might have been a sucker, as I am one of the two founding members of the local kids' Liars' Club. Perhaps he was telling the truth. I know a guy who used to go up and down this ' ravine on the north side of San Antonio in one day. I avoided any trip he might be leading. I really punked out on some very strenuous trips in my 40s and couldn't understand it, as I was exercising and was in shape.
The real problem emerged only in , at 59, when I got a triple bypass and my heart surgeon told me I had had heart disease for at least 30 years, and gave me a severe lecture about Italian sausages, Popeye's chicken, pizzas, and so forth.
My wife was there and enforces his lecture. My main doctor saved my life, bless her. However, for the surgery they refused just to give me a local anaesthetic so I could assist.
After a panic attack the night before, I became interested in how the operation would be done. The anaesthetist did assure me that they wouldn't be using a Craftsman saw to cut through my sternum, but some sort of German saw. I might get a panic attack again. Yes, that's what I meant. But it seems there is no consistent use of "elevation gain" anyway, so I wrote the author of the main book I am using, and hopefully he will reply back and tell me what he meant.
The book author is good for going to the source. Don't expect consistent, but realize that it's how you use the term which is important. Late September I think there were about nine or ten of us in the group, and it has been published on the web since then.
I believe that is the longest continuous uphill hiking route in North America. Longest and continuous in terms of elevation gain to be done in one day.
I don't recall the cumulative elevation gain, but at least feet. Different than what you describe,but not really easier. Some of the more serious hikers in the AMC. For our committee, perhaps 3 or 4 each year in this class, out of different trips. If no one showed up, they would not keep doing them. I know you have been up Washington, so you appreciate the above treeline terrain in the area.
Terrain, above the treeline on Washington? On my first trip up there, I couldn't see much terrain due to snow and wind. All I saw were those two-foot lumps covered by snow, which made walking treacherous. I would imagine that in June it is much nicer. Isn't that when the black flies come out? That's from poker one word, really , and I know how to avoid it there. I don't fall into that trap, as it was used on me twice when I was about 20 playing 5-card draw at the U of AK.
I'm exceedingly cautious in poker, after some bad experiences, and I only play fools like astronomers. Losing sucks and haunts your dreams. If the guy was lying about his hike up Telescope Peak, it was a pretty good lie. My heart operation was in April , when they ripped all the veins for the bypass out of my right leg, leaving a substantial red scar; staples altogether.
The scar is largely gone now, but not the nerve damage. In the early summer of I was out in my shorts, with my dog, and the Liars' Club came up to me asking what could have happened to me? They knew I had been in hospital for something.
I told them that because of my extreme age young kids can't tell the difference between 60 and 90 my heart had fallen down into my leg - have I told this story on this newsgroup before?
Then they weren't so pissed off. But they were dubious about getting such a huge and serious personal lie. They preferred to hear that Alexander got lost and conquered Persia by accident. One of my favorite old New Yorker cartoons, shows a CEO so old that his flesh is just falling off his face.
He hits the intercom and demands, "Mrs Covington or some such , please bring me come connective tissue! The co-founder, indeed the initiator, of the Liar's Club was a 5-yr-old girl named Hannah.
I was sitting on the curb with my dog Achilles watching the kids and their parents play ball in the parking lot. The ball rolled uphill and hit my feet. She came to get it and apologized. Tell me more lies!! I told her father, a Hopkins doctor, that she was so good she needed an agent. But the Liars' Club is now a ghost town, like Ballarat, as Hannah has moved away, and the Goggins parents sniffed out that my lies were more subversive than one might at first think, and that I usually told the truth, which they definitely did not want their kids to hear.
I tried to repair relations by giving the middle daughter "How the Irish Saved Civilization" for her 10th birthday a month ago. She's smart enough to read it, and just snatched it out of my hand right in front of her amused mother, whom I call St Bernadette.
According to the cladists at the American Museum of Natural History in NYC, a most excellent place for many years, we are all just walking fish, carrying the ocean with us. Yes, very likely. McKinley or St Elias take a lot more than one day. Try Rabbit Peak, as it's relatively easy, but puts people who think they are tough in their place.
Weather is good, no rain and hail storms as in the Sierra, and only half of the people will get lost. There are orchards to feed them at the base until they get rescued. I can't do it right now, as I have been so lax in recovering from my heart surgery my wife is going nuts. Defintely not easier. But make sure you have perfect boots. I worry that you might get neuromas, as I did from one disastrous hike downhill over the Hogsback. Don't carry more than the 11 essentials, and try to do it without a feeling of emergency.
Rent a Japanese guard for those who can't make it. Actually, that was the dolphins he was quoting. Ce poulet a une grenade! I have led a number of groups up to NH summits where I had to describe how good the view would have been without the clouds and fog. The Presi ridge, and the Washington summit in particular, is sometimes called the "Big Rock Pile" as the higher elevations are a jumble of boulders and rocks, with no apparently solid rock visible.
This is what I meant, the sometimes treacherous rocks make moving fast far more difficult. Mid-May to Mid-June is typical for black flies. Once you get above treeline, though, the high winds blow the black flies away from you before they bite. The way it is planned, there are cars spotted at the trailheads of various side trails, so there are numerous options for shortening the trip as needed.
No good reason not to have boots that fit well, and hold up to the sort of hiking and terrain you will be doing. Neuromas are caused by continued excess pressure to certain nerve bundles, and are also seen in runners. Those who have a second toe as long or longer than the big toe are very prone to what is called Morton's Toe or Morton's Neuroma. Good orthotics will minimize these problems for many people.
Start with modifying the footwear with orthotics, before modifying the foot with surgery. I've tried orthotics given me by a few podiatrists; they are so much trouble I couldn't even hike far with them.
My Alpenspitz mountain boots from Sports Chalet q. I'm on my 4th set of Vibram soles, and they are still in great shape. I just took a terrific pounding from that emergency escape from the Sierra, without having hiked that much beforehand.
What you describe as causes for neuromas are all essentially injuries, as I mentioned. My feet and toes are perfectly normal, and have received much favorable comment from dates between marriages, and from my 2nd wife. But they are small compared to my torso, as are my hands, arms, and legs. I have occasionally joked that I'm an achondroplastic dwarf, which my wife does not find amusing, either.
As I said, my wife suffered no injuries from our mad hike out. She also runs marathons and half-marathons, and similar races, and never has had an injury though she will be 56 this year. She's just more indestructible than I am. Your system of exits for folks who punk out sounds very good. Where I have gone in the West there are not really such options as there are here in the East. Like a Civil War soldier, you just had to bite your knife and bear it.
I didn't even have any whiskey. Yes, the rocks were feet in diameter, and there was feet of snow down, so it was difficult to guess where to put my feet.
However, I had hiked up in a hurry from Pinkham Notch, and I was slowing down as I approached the summit. GPS was showing me a bearing, but a direct bearing is not very optimal over rocks like that.
Easier with more snow to smooth out the surface. When that terrain is dry, it is somewhat easier, although still slow going. Not all of the rocks are stable. If you really want some fun, try that terrain with a bit of verglas over the rocks. In that situation, the GPS helps with macro direction finding, not with the micro direction finding. It is true for many people, but not all of them know it.
Washington in winter has the potential to be as bad as any mountainous area in the world in terms of extreme weather, with the sole exception of altitude.
Combine this with its deceptive ease, and proximity to a large population, and the SAR folks can end up busy. Almost as severe are the rest of the Presidential Ridge, the Franconia Ridge, as well as some of the more isolated summits with extended above treeline stretches. Not just my opinion, but shared by many more experienced than I who have done the Presi's in winter as well as mountaineering in Alaska, South America, the Himalaya, the Karakoram, etc.
I was swinging around, right and left, trying to work my way through the rock field to the summit, and my GPS display was shifting the Bearing to Destination right and left, trying to keep up. The actual tracklog looked like that made by a drunken snail. When I went back there a year or two later in September no snow , I was able to rock-hop from one to another without any difficulty. What impressed me was after I had returned to Pinkham Notch on that first Mt. Washington trip.
I had gotten up in about four hours and returned in about the same. Later that night and the next day, the news carried the story of the guy who had been up on Washington that same day and had gotten into trouble.
The weather pinned him down on the Alpine Garden, and he had called for help on a cell phone. The SAR team went up the road in a snow cat and scooped him up near the road. After they hauled him out to the hospital, I think he had some frostbite or something. Why did I make it without problem and he barely survived? I started earlier in the day, and I was very heavily clothed, for just such an occasion.
There's probably a stubbornness factor in there, also. It was on our second attempt at WY's highest north glacier route. We had attempted it a couple years prior and had two feet of heavy snow to break on summit day. We ran out of energy well below the actual climb. The second attempt was at the end of July and the streams had receded a bit giving us boulders to hop up along the stream in the flood plain.
We had taken the woods trail the previous trip and found that it was completely unmaintained and wove through and around blow down areas and was hard to follow. Anyway, the flood plain was not really that wide and brush hung out over the stream leaving us rocks that were being splashed and were wet.
Most of the rocks were just wet and the traction was fine but every once in a while we'd step on one that had the verglas on it. Report this post. I walk in the hallways of a building for my step count. What does Elevation Gain measure? I doubt that I'm climbing any mounds in the hallways.
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Learn more. Indeed there is a 'magic slope' a couple percent grade, going down, that seems to be just enough to overcome friction, and you cruise seemingly without effort. To count total elevation change: Count the number of contour intervals your route crosses or touches. This will be an underestimate. Even a foot interval hides a lot of topographic nuance. However contour counting is quick, and it's fairly consistent, which is all you really care about. Sign up to join this community. The best answers are voted up and rise to the top.
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Ask Question. Asked 3 years, 2 months ago. Active 3 years, 1 month ago. Viewed 10k times. If a trail is listed as m of elevation change, what exactly does that mean?
Or would it be m elevation change, since the end is m above the start? Improve this question. Charlie Brumbaugh
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